Review af Bubble King

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Review af Bubble King

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Hej.

Her er et review af Bubble King, testet af O2manyFish fra RC:

Følgende er sakset ud af hans tråd, som kan ses på linket længere nede.


Bubble King

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This skimmer was provided by the manufacturer.

The construction of this skimmer is top notch.

The Red Dragon pump, although consuming more power than advertised, pulled in much greater quantities of air than any of the other skimmers tested.

The Bubble King at the time of the start of the comparison, was the most talked about new skimmer on the market. Tons of hype, tons of chat, and only one skimmer in the country. Provided by Captive Oceans and delivered and setup by Madison. This skimmer never truly performed.

The Bubble King was on the system on 2 separate occasions. Each time for weeks at a time. Madison, sometimes stopped over multiple times a day to make adjustments to the skimmer. People called me on the phone, while watching on the webcam to make adjustments.

However, after a total time in the system of over 6 weeks, the Bubble King only skimmed consistently for more than a 24 hour period on only a couple of occasions (and for no more than 48 hours). Madison attempted swapping effluent tubes, impellers, and numerous 'ideas' to no avail. At the end of the comparison, I was told that a revised Bubble King using a new impeller, effluent tubes, valves and bubble plate was coming. However, the unit arrived in the US damaged.

The construction of this skimmer is great. The pump is silent and super efficient. I think the bubble diffuser is a flawed design. This is the natural location of sediment and detritus to settle in the skimmer, and yet it is a sealed area which cannot be cleaned.

One of the other things I discovered in working with the Bubble King is that the pump is overly sensitive. The pump/impeller is designed to move a maximum amount of air. In my opinion this might be the source of the issues we had in getting the skimmer to perform. Because the Red Dragon is so sensitive, any environment change dramatically affects performance. The best analogy I have for this is if you took a 600hp engine out of plane, and put it in a truck, the truck would not perform well - Because the plane engine is designed for high RPM and low torque.

The Red Dragon pump seems like a low torque motor. Examples that led to this were 2 key events. One day while cleaning my system, and stirring up the sand bed so the entire system was full of silt and cloudy. The Red Dragon pump could not push enough of the dirty water to even fill the chamber of the Bubble King. The second example occurred during our extremely wet winter out here in So Cal. One day while out in the yard, I had just cleaned and adjusted the Bubble King. I had adjusted it so that the bubbles were climbing the lift tube. All of sudden a cloud showed up overhead, there was a blast of lightning, and a thunder shower broke out. The foam head, in the bubble king collapased.

Following these two events I began to notice how slight changes in temperature, humidity, salinity, water clarity all had pronounced effects of the Bubble King. While I am aware that these variables outside in my yard are much greater than in the average person's home. The fact is that these changes didn't alter the performance, but killed it.

Without the opportunity to compare the 'revised skimmer' under more 'normal' environmental conditions, I wouldn't recommend this skimmer. In my opinion the model I was given to use was just too quirky, and no one, including the dealer was able to get it to perform.

Se review af flere skummer her:

http://www.o2manyfish.com/skimmers/Venturi.htm

Og se lige hans review af Deltec APF851 - sådan :-D

/Henrik
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Han skriver også om Deltec'en: "This skimmer was purchased by me. I also distribute the Deltec Skimmers"

Så det er virkelig objektivt - men ja, det virker ikke til at Bubble King (Det er vel den der nu hedder Deluxe) er særlig brugbar på et udendørs system.
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Hougaard skrev:Han skriver også om Deltec'en: "This skimmer was purchased by me. I also distribute the Deltec Skimmers"
Så det er virkelig objektivt

Yep, det er rigtigt - men han giver også et godt review af GroTech HEA-250 samt Euro-Reef CS 8-2 som han dog ikke forhandler. Hvad skulle han have ud af at tale dåligt om Bubble King men godt om Grotech og Euro-Reef?

Han skiver også i sit Deltec Review "This skimmer is absolutely overpriced"!!

Jeg syntes han er rimeligt objektiv.

Hougaard skrev:det virker ikke til at Bubble King (Det er vel den der nu hedder Deluxe) er særlig brugbar på et udendørs system
Btw - hvad er forskellen på en skummers virkemåde om et system står indenfor eller udenfor ?

Udover det så er alle skummerne vel testet unden samme forhold..

/Henrik
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sneppevej skrev:Hvad skulle han have ud af at tale dåligt om Bubble King men godt om Grotech?
Hva... Er det ikke dig der plejer at være konspirationsmesteren ? Men GroTech er jo ikke sexet på RC, så den er jo ikke en konkurrent til Deltec ;)
sneppevej skrev:Btw - hvad er forskellen på en skummers virkemåde om et system står indenfor eller udenfor ?
Som han selv skrev, den hold op med skumme når det regnede, så der må jo være en eller anden påvirkning !?!

Og jeg skal da blankt indrømme, at jeg aldrig har eksperimenteret med mine skummer under andre end konstante miljø -mæssige forhold indendørs og alligevel gør min (DELTEC) da engang imellem ting som man ikke helt forstår (skummer meget/skummer lidt etc)...

/Erik
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Hougaard skrev:Men GroTech er jo ikke sexet på RC, så den er jo ikke en konkurrent til Deltec ;)
Det tror jeg nu heller ikke at Bubble King er eller bliver :roll:

Der er nok for få der benytter dem, til at der kan komme nogen objektve meninger om den.

/Henrik
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Det er vel også de færreste der har skummerne stående uden for.
Det må jo have noget med luftfugtigheden at gøre, så det vil vel også gøre sig gældende hvis den står i en sump, der er luftfugtgheden vel den samme som hvis det regner.
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